Comments on: Bottle Mold Cavity Half-Leaf Repair Marks

By: Tom Doligale

Tom Doligale — Mon, 09 May 2011 22:40:19 +0000

Check this out Red. Thanks for your past purchases from me.

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574633463&toolid=10001&campid=5335859342&customid=comment&icep_item=360365446392&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg

By: Red Matthews

Red Matthews — Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:29:10 +0000

I am not familiar with some things about this home page yet Are you the one that commented on the mold cavity repairs? This type of mark has been kicked around all over the place on the A-BN FORUM. A big percentage claim that this action is a pinch of glass. There are three pictures in my blog that show the half leaf in some horizontal turne ribs in the mold. A pinch wouldn't be pushed in like that. The first set of pictures in my blog are of a bottle I have and there is no way I can imagine a bottle being made with two pinches being located like that on a bottle. I have since obtained three more bottles that have these marks. I have found about 15 more up in the New York collections to review this summer. I also found a bottle in a museum that has two of these marks X'd over each other.
I realize that there were pinches, and most of them ended up being on the bottom of bottles where they fell down there when the parison was re-entered in the mold for the final blow. Thanks for your reply I will try to send you an email also. RED Matthews

By: swankybritches

swankybritches — Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:56:21 +0000

Hi Red,
Those aren't cavity repairs at all. The gather was pinched in the mold and flattened against the glass while still molten. Nice try though mate.

By: Wil Martindale

Wil Martindale — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 00:30:15 +0000

Hi Red,
I have a long standing bottle mystery for you to solve. From the article at my website:
"We noted in Part I of this article, the vertical mold marks at the base edge of the bottle recovered in Baltimore. We also acknowledged a consensus among certain diggers and collectors of early Baltimore black glass that these marks are indicative of "Baltimore", but what is the basis of this claim? Is it the mere fact that many early black glass bottles with this characteristic have been dug in Baltimore? Could these examples include Maryland made black glass for the Baltimore market, or possibly even certain quart bottles imported into Baltimore from abroad?"

And the page, with pics: http://bottleden.com/frederick2.shtml

Any ideas about this one? THX–Wil

By: Palmetto_digs

Palmetto_digs — Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:24:14 +0000

Red,
It's amazing what you can find about botles on the internet. For a long time I have puzzeled over the capital "D" shaped imperfection on my emerald green pontiled cone ink; your comments in “Bottle Mold Cavity Half-Leaf Repair Marks” appears to be the answer. Also, for another example, take a look at the current (2-10-11) eBay auction titled:
WING REPAIR SQUAT SODA MINERAL WATER OR BEER BOTTLE.

Do you have any knowledge or an opinion on how values are affected by items with this mark? If you want a picture of the pontiled cone ink, let me know.

Thanks for the information.

Palmetto_digs

By: eddie

eddie — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 04:40:02 +0000

Lots of interesting info red.great job.

By: Antique Glass Bottles Guru

Antique Glass Bottles Guru — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:24:05 +0000

Nice blog post. Really cool pictures.

By: Bob Libbey

Bob Libbey — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:16:29 +0000

Hey Red,
You have a wealth of information. Keep up the good work. I’m wondering if you have come to the conclusion that this anomaly was formed by a ‘pinch’ in the molten glass as the mold was being closed? It seems like the logical event that caused this. I think this is born out by the fact that you usually see thick glass behind the anomaly (caused by the pinch). Take care!

By: Eric Johnson

Eric Johnson — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:50:11 +0000

The saratoga looks great red! wonderful article..thanks for your well of knowledge

By: Warren Friedrich

Warren Friedrich — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:52:22 +0000

Red,
I read your article with great interest. I also read Hagenbuch’s article on this subject. I have seen a Rosenbaums Bitters, R93 in Ham’s book with this same anomaly repair. I have only seen one example with it, and several examples without it. It does make sense that maybe this was a temporary repair, until another mold could be made to replace the damaged one.

Have you ever seen this type of repair done on a western made/blown bottle? I was of the opinion that this R93 variant of the Rosenbaums Bitters was an eastern made mold, along with blown bottles from the East. After reading your explanation and Hagenbuch’s article, I believe this western distributed bitters was an Eastern made mold, and probably Eastern blown bottles as well.